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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:16 am 
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oh well, so much for not rushing it through. we still had over 24hrs till deadline so would have been good to try and get some more evidence for tomorrow fromn our quiet ones.
Really would have liked to have seen a list of players for pros and cons before the lynch was done

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NIGHT 6
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There were no deaths on Day 6


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There were no deaths during night 6

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A cold day dawns on Immoren, and the bleary-eyed town is joyful to find none have died this night. Will they close in on the killer or killers today? Or will they be led astray?


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Well well, that's an interesting turn of events... No lynch death and no night death. For the lynch, I guess that puts Aza in the town category, as there's no way a mafia would be lynch proof (I doubt death proof). For the no night kill, I can only assume that James jail kept the right person. So James, who did you jail keep last night?


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Well well, that's an interesting turn of events... No lynch death and no night death. For the lynch, I guess that puts Aza in the town category, as there's no way a mafia would be lynch proof (I doubt death proof). For the no night kill, I can only assume that James jail kept the right person. So James, who did you jail keep last night?

Now that's an interesting view point... and a wrong one (even though its supporting me)
I've noticed that often enough, mafia members get some sort of save here and there (Ms Sinclair in my mini game, Megatron in transformers game)

But, who would you expect to have a self save, than a witch doctor ?

Anyway, if anything I'd be suspect if people thought i was "town" for having a save,
I want you to believe I'm town for the touch of work I've been doing night 6.

So far I've analysed days 2-3 (day 1 is too hard to judge, lynching a Seriel killer doesn't give much so didn't look at it)

Here is what i got from day 2.....


malignant death (mafia)

(nic went after khorgor, swirly votes for him next saying....
Well if khorgor's not mafia, I think he might be onto something with Russia and malignant.
But he seems to fit the bill for me for now.
There's probably too many Khador for my liking, and he rc'd late, but when there was only one Khador and it probably seemed pretty safe. That, and his posts seem a tad suss.

vote: Khorgor

then nic + swirly go on to say they're happy to vote malignant (mafia)
then we see gambits next post....

Either way i think a Khadorian shall swing today, there are more of them then the other factions
and it also fits in with Khorgor and SL being targets as they are both Khador . . .just which one is lying

also bokke sasy

Uurrgh, it's rough catching up after the weekend. Looks like Khorgor is the target for today,
but I think Aza's theory on SL also has merrit.

so ignors the malignant attention quickly, and puts eyes on khorgor again, and my hunch that a khador player is mafia...

then wyld also misdirects at this point (godfather) votes for khorgor.

Now, Centurions posts at this point, saying he would rather hold off lynching.
We can't be 100% sure Khorgor is town, but i would think he is at this stage,
which leads me to believe, maybe Cent is town, otherwise, he could have tried to run the lynch through as well,
and indeed saving malignany that day.

SL, votes Khorogor.

Darth - Khorgor
BOKKE (meh, lets do this) - Khorogor

Khor claims power....

Obe votes - Khorgor :/


1. now paulfrank buck the trend and votes mal (town)

2. Blind witness jumps on the train next (likely town)

3.Swirly (says suspect of khorogr, russia and mal, 2 mafia at elast) (likely town)

4. obe jumps on (after the first 3, it can always be mafia trying to look good)

5. thatnicguy (no text, besides votes)

6. Sensual

7. vorag

8. khorgor

at this stage, Rez goes into misdirection mode...
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Aza – Maelok (3) Minions caster
wyldecarde - Lord Carver (17) Minion caster
Nurgle71 - Calaban (15) Minion caster

DarthProph - pSorscha (20) Khador caster
Khorgor - Zevanna Agha (Old witch) (14) Khador caster
Centurions – pVlad (9) Khador caster
Sensual_Lettuce - pButcher (16) Khador caster

thatnicguy – eKruger (10) Circle caster
Obeisance – pKaya (2) Circle caster
Russia – pBaldur (6) Circle caster

swirly – eKreoss (19) Menoth caster
Polar – Harbinger (11) Menoth caster
Bethbot – Reznik (7) Menoth caster

Gambit – pCaine (13) Cygnar caster
one second of insanity - pHaley (23), Cygnar caster
Marked by the Gods - Constance Blaize (21), Cygnar caster (or is it merc)

Malignant – Vyros (4) Ret caster

vorag –pMakeda (1) Skorne caster - MILLER

Bokke66 - Grim Angus (22), Trollbloods caster

blindwitness – Durgen Madhammer (18) Mercs caster
Rez – Ashlyn (12) Mercs caster

drsn0 - DEAD - eEiryss, mercs solo - SERIAL KILLER
paulfrank – Reinholdt (8) Merc solo
James Heald – Gorman (5) Merc solo
So looking at the RCs a bit closer. There seems to be a lot of the main story casters in there, along with a mix of Warlocks from factions Orange plays (Grim Angus, Maelock etc). There are a lot of main characters that havent been claimed though, which would make sense if your fake RCing, as they would be quite risky. With that in mind, the bolded ones are the ones I think are a bit dodgy.

pButcher - psychotic maniac. And although he is an important Khador figure in a sense, he isnt involved in the story arcs at all.
pKaya - absolutely no impact on the story. Went epic by finding her spirit wolf, unlike many other locks who went epic by doing something in the story arc.
Reznik - Not a huge impact on the story either, very second tier character - plus Bethbot has been exceptionally quiet so far this game.
Constance - absolutely no impact on main story. New character too, which is at odds with all the Prime characters floating about.
Durgen Madhammer - this is my biggest query. claim to fame is getting kicked out of the dwarf city for blowing up dwarves in experiments. No fluff impact at all, extremely minor character. If there was going to be a second Merc caster, I would have expected pMagnus - but he is too risky if your fake RCing.

Hard to get a read on the minion RCs. They are Oranges main faction (at least Blindwater is), so on one hand that makes sense. But on the other hand, there is no Bloody Barnabus who is the main guy from Blindwater. After the Maelock RC people mentioned they are Oranges faction, so every chance the other two Minion RCs caught onto this and went the safe RC route (ie: not Barnabus).


Onto the lynch at hand, it seems people are voting for Malignant purely because of his low post count. There are a HEAP of people flying under the radar right now, what makes Mal special in this regard?

9.Marked by the gods (late vote to look town ? )

10. Rez (late vote to look town ? )

11. One second of insanity (late vote)

12. Gambit (late vote)


Day 2 suspects

1. Rez
2. Bokke66
3. Gambit

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and my analysis from day 3....

Day 3

Russia (mafia) DEAD

Khorgor kicks off the votes, sticking it to Russia.

1. Khorgor (likely town)

(Obe points out that, nic is claiming paranoid, and khorogr claims lie dector)
says he is leaning towards voting Khorogr instead of Russia (no vote

2. Nicguy (town)

3.swirly (likely town)

Russia contests, says mal acccused him, his not likely mafia (believible actually)
His hit list is, Bokke, nic (town), Polar (town), Aza (town)

Then Rez blames Obe about splitting the vote, as he hinted Khorgor looked more suss,
yet Rez had NOT actually voted for Russia yet :/

4.Blindwitness (likely town)
(Blind witness then swaps vote to Wyldcarde... also Mafia, increasing his likelyhood of town)


At this stage, 4 votes drop on Khorgor,
- Polar (town)
- Russia (mafia)
- Obe (possible mafia)
- James heald (possible mafia)

5. Aza (town)

(bokke goes for Khorgor, possible mafia)
(vorag votes Khorgor, although, i believe him to be more town than mafia,
I have explained earlier, claiming miller that early is likely true)
(Blindwitness comes back on the Russia lynch)

6. Centurions (at this stage, it can be mafia lynching their own)

7. Sensual . (at this stage, it can be mafia lynching their own)

8. Darth (at this stage, it can be mafia lynching their own)

9. Obe . Swaps votes (possible mafia)

10. Marked (late vote on both lynches)

Again, Rez does NOT vote, but asked about James Heald's jailkeeper ability

11. Rez (finally hammers)

Top suspects from day 3

1. Obeisance
2. Rez
3. Bokke66

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I'm yet to review day's 4-5 properlly, but so far, I'm proposing a lynch on either Rez or Bokke66.

But... at least let me troll through the next few days worth of posting / voting to find some more dirt.

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You better hope you weren't the target of.the jailkeep aza....

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You better hope you weren't the target of.the jailkeep aza....
And if i was ...?

What would that prove exactly ?

That the mafia attempted to kill me at night as well ?

Or you STILL believe I'm mafia :/

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You better hope you weren't the target of.the jailkeep aza....
that's a good point.
Aza makes lots of good points too, so I suppose James Heald's info will definitely make today's decision easier.


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OK, just went through Day 4.


Day 4 DEAD polar - TOWN

1. Bokke66 (tracks Polar visiting the dead paulfrank) (upgraded to likely town)

2. nic (TOWN)

3. Rez (Likely mafia, and 3rd vote on a town member)

4. Khorgor (likely town)

5. Centurions

6. Vorag

7. Gambit

8. Marked

9. Wyldcards

10 James heald (hammer i believe)

11. Sensual


It was a very fast day.

But it seemed to almost "make sense". I withdraw Bokke66 as a lynching suspect at this stage.
I believe, he thought he tracked the mafia kill, although, just watched Polar try and save a gobber.

IMO, this looks worse and worse for Rez.

He was Very reluctant to vote the first few days, but is number 3 voter agasint this town vote :/

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Well I should be on that list of peeps voting for polar somewhere. I was 4th or 5th I think, right before he claimed faith healer which, at the time, just seemed like a really good excuse to cover a mafia kill. Sorry Polar D:

Rez and Aza are top for me, (Aza makes a lot of sense about Rez), though it still hinges on what James Heald did last night, and if he gives us bogus info, he will be up for it next I suppose.


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i will put up a post re low posters monday morning after work - the reason im saying this now is that rez is in that group by the look of things

the only thing re aza is that he tried to lynch cent (over the godfather) who in the above posts he says likely town and also aza survived the lynch - there are over a third of us as power roles by the look of things (im including p.cop and miller) so with a town self save that seems WAY over balanced towards town - more likely mafia self save me thinks


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Day 5 Wylcarde MAFIA DEAD

1. Khorgor kicks off the lynching, and trgets Wyld

2. Blindwitness agrees promptly

(khorgor receeds vote, and goes to James Heald)

{at this point Vorag points out an interesting thought,
If i was mafia, why would I call out Malignant so early (4th?)}

Gambit also votes James Heald, giving reasons why he believes James is scum.

I vote for Sensual (I still think a Khador RC must be bogus)

And sensual in turn votes Gambit :/

Khorgor jumps back on wyld's lynch.

3. Swirly

4. Centurions

5. Bokke66

I'll admit (and remember, i could have ommited this, as it does look bad for me)
I finally got behind a computer, and got a chance to have some input.

Something pricked up, and i was sure that Centurions was mafia, so voted (eventually)

6. James Heald

7. nurgle71 (didn't even know he was playing, trying to look town late game as wyld looked gone ?)

At this stage i post my thoughts on cent, and who jumps their vote could be seen as interesting.

it went
- Swirly
- James
- vorag
- wyldcarde

Another nail for rez IMO...

t looks these are our best two options right now, given the lack of other solid leads.

So if we lynch WC and he flips Mafia, we can pretty much go after Aza for trying to deflect attention away from WC.
If he flips town then we can put the minions thing to bed, and look at lynching centurions. If we lynch Centurions and
he flips mafia then it would appear that Aza and WC are safe, if he flips town then Aza and WC are both targets again..

Not really sure which option is the better out of those two. TBH I a leaning towards Centurions because it's a "meta" argument against him,
which a lot of players have stated is the best way to sort out lynches/targets. The argument against WC seems to be a fluff/faction based one,
which is less likely in my eyes. Looking at the mafia si far, Arkadius was a mad scientist who had dealifs with Legion. The Totem Hunter is basically the Predator
in the WMH setting, not really tied with any pact within the Minion faction. Looking at the other minion RCs, Carver is just a standard Warlord character,
and Maelock was killed and brought back to life to serve his master. Neither screams mafia to me.

This one is interesting, espically the highlights text.
Its as if Rez KNEW wyld was mafia, and then could get a free lynch on me.
Although, he leans towards Centurions, hoping the godfather wont be lynched :? ???

Then the votes for wyld pile back on.

Swirly,
nic,
myself
Then rez jumps on (eventually)
vorag

Then obe posts, but does not vote (for anyone)
but comes on later to vote for Wyld.

Day 5 suspects...

1. Rez
2. Obe

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